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  • edwin 2 hours ago
    There’s something quietly impressive about getting modern AI ideas to run on old hardware (like OP's project or running LLM inference on Windows 3.1 machines). It’s easy to think all the progress is just bigger GPUs and more compute, but moments like that remind you how much of it is just more clever math and algorithms squeezing signal out of limited resources. Feels closer to the spirit of early computing than the current “throw hardware at it” narrative.
    • wdbm 54 minutes ago
      There is an absolutely beautiful rendering of the Mona Lisa encoded at some point in the digits of pi. If you know the position, it's really easy to plot the image.

      But first you have to find that position.

    • Unbeliever69 6 minutes ago
      Now do this on a Casio Watch next :)
    • hammer32 18 minutes ago
      Exactly. Working in a constrained environment invites innovation.
  • hyperhello 4 hours ago
    Hello, if there are no XCMDs it should work adequately in HyperCard Simulator. I am only on my phone but I took a minute to import it.

    https://hcsimulator.com/imports/MacMind---Trained-69E0132C

    • hammer32 2 hours ago
      I had no idea your simulator existed. No XCMDs, correct; everything is pure HyperTalk. I just ran a few training steps and they complete in a second or two. Thank you for importing it!
      • hyperhello 2 hours ago
        I gotta ask. Your scripts have comments like -- handlers_math.hypertalk.txt at the top. Are you using some kind of build process for a stack?
        • hammer32 2 hours ago
          More of a copy-paste process. The scripts are written as .txt files in Nova on my Mac Studio, then pasted one at a time into HyperCard's script editor on the classic Mac. The files are kept separate because SimpleText has a 32 KB text limit.
          • hyperhello 2 hours ago
            As an alternative, you might consider letting Hypercard itself open the text files and 'set the script of' as needed.
            • hammer32 1 hour ago
              Yup, that would have been easier. It's been decades since I've done anything with HyperCard. I had to re-take the built-in intro course again :)
  • gcanyon 4 hours ago
    It's strange to think how modern concepts are only modern because no one thought of them back then. This feels (to me) like the germ theory being transferred back to the ancient greeks.
    • kdhaskjdhadjk 3 hours ago
      I think it's incredible to see the potential that is still locked up in old hardware. For example the 8088 MPH demo. Amazing what he was able to do with an 8088 and CGA. All this time the hardware had that potential, but it took decades to figure out how to unlock it, long after the hardware was considered obsolete. Imagine the sort of things that might be done later down the road with hardware of 0-20 years ago if somebody really dug into it to that level.
      • andai 42 minutes ago
      • ashleyn 2 hours ago
        Retro console homebrew and demoscene are all about this. There's a lot of fun stuff going on in N64 homebrew right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNEo0aQkGnU
      • tomcam 2 hours ago
        That 8088 MPH demo is a tour de force. Which tells you that the millions of Apple laptops being bricked right now instead of being recycled could have some amazing use if it were possible to wipe them clean and reuse. Sigh.
        • andai 43 minutes ago
          Well, we've set it up so the survival of employees and their families is tied to old products being bricked.
    • hammer32 4 hours ago
      Right? Backprop was published in 1986, a year before HyperCard shipped. Attention is newer, but a small model like this was buildable.
    • jeffbee 32 minutes ago
      People did think of many of these core concepts decades ago, but they did not have the resources to put them into practice.
    • anthk 3 hours ago
      Lisp is from 1960's and with s9 you can do even calculus with ease, in an interpreter small enough to fit in two floppies.

      On the Greeks, Archimede almost did 'Calculus 0.9'.

  • immanuwell 52 minutes ago
    The architecture of macmind looks pretty interesting
    • hammer32 22 minutes ago
      Thank you! The constraints made it interesting. HyperCard doesn't have arrays, so the entire model, weights, activations, gradients, is stored as strings in hidden fields. All of the matrix math is done with "item i of field".
  • DetroitThrow 4 hours ago
    This is very cool. Any more demos of inference output?
    • hammer32 2 hours ago
      Thanks! The quickest way to try it is the HyperCard Simulator link someone just posted in this thread: https://hcsimulator.com/imports/MacMind---Trained-69E0132C — go to the Inference card, click New Random to fill in 8 digits, then click Permute. The model predicts the bit-reversed permutation of all 8 positions. The pre-trained stack gets all inputs correct.