Claude AI recovers an 11 yrs old BTC wallet holding 400k USD

(tomshardware.com)

215 points | by cednore 2 hours ago

31 comments

  • atonse 2 hours ago
    I have a similar claude story (much less money though), with the IRS R&D tax credit. The auditing firm initially said we qualify for $0. But then I had claude analyze past R&D reports and our expenses and it found the problem. The auditor had miscategorized our company.

    So claude drafted an email even pointing to the right Internal Revenue Code (IRS Law), and specify why we fall under a specific category. The auditor got back to me two days later admitting their mistake and said our company now qualifies for $8k in tax credits. And a few months ago, it identified items in our AWS that saved us $250 a month (paying for itself).

    So now I joke that even if I have a claude max plan, I've still come out ahead financially.

    • binkHN 1 hour ago
      > So now I joke that even if I have a claude max plan, I've still come out ahead financially.

      This is no joke; for better or worse, I see a day when I'm paying a lot more for this and it will be a bargain.

      • baq 43 minutes ago
        I've seen this day sometime in December and not only with Claude. Wish I was joking on some days, feeling exhilarated on others.
      • wolttam 1 hour ago
        By my estimation (guess) you won't actually need to spend that much because the models are already getting a point where they don't need to get a whole lot better to be extremely helpful across many domains.

        And it looks like those very helpful capabilities will continue to transfer to smaller models as well, as architectures and training regimes continue to refine.

        I can fairly easily imagine a world where the only people needing to spend a lot of money on models are those that are using them to solve truly novel problems. The rest of us will get plenty of use at reasonable costs for the typical day-to-day helpful stuff.

        • hypercube33 43 minutes ago
          All we need is something like Qwen3-coder-next but at Kimi K2.6 ability so it runs on laptop workstation hardware and we are set...soon?
          • wolttam 31 minutes ago
            In 2023 GPT-4 was allegedly 1.8T parameters. In 2026 we have ~100x smaller models (10-20B) that handily outperform it, and can indeed run on a laptop.
        • Barbing 16 minutes ago
          [sci-fi “AGI” scenario] What if those with elite model access philosophize in a way us mere mortals can’t understand, so the elites have to prechew the ideas for us to bring them to our level, and they control the narrative?

          In reality now, curious about social implications generally. Does this go beyond problem solving? Maybe the intelligence per token you get via your free library card/membership is insufficient to compete with peers in dating/employment/etc. markets, thus puts you at disadvantage.

    • nolok 1 hour ago
      To be fair regarding taxes it should be that you get all exemptions by default and the other side telling/justifying you why you don't qualify, instead of you not getting the things you should because you're not sure how to interpret the law or don't know this or that rule exists. Taxes shouldn't be that difficult, and the US version of it seems to be behind even the one I have here in europe (where my taxes are done "for me" for anything non business owner related). If the government is calculating your taxes anyway, they should just give the number to you instead of asking you a number and you better have the same as us or you're guilty of something.

      Feels like a system that is deliberatly made to be more punishing for those who can't afford the help or the education to figure things out.

      • atonse 1 hour ago
        I would agree with you on most situations (like 1040 personal income taxes especially).

        But in this particular tax credit, there's no way for the gov to know automatically what percentage of payroll was spent in qualified R&D expenses, since it's day to day business operations. Which is why we are _forced_ to hire an outside firm and pay them thousands of dollars (when Claude did an even better job), just to analyze how much of our time qualified as R&D expenses.

        The problem I have is that I am forced to have to find a firm to do this, and most firms won't even work with companies as small as ours. So then we're stuck and losing out on years of R&D tax credits at the moment, when I really don't need them anymore, to be honest.

      • simonh 1 hour ago
        Or punishing to those that don’t pay for software and services to the companies that lobby for it to be this way.
      • gobdovan 1 hour ago
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    • anon291 21 minutes ago
      Same... I had chatgpt go over my taxes (I do it myself) and it found a number of savings I qualified for
      • gonzalohm 13 minutes ago
        Can you explain the steps you followed? Did you just feed it the whole return?
  • notRobot 2 hours ago
    Claude Code is really good at stuff like this. The other day I tried to recover some images from an SD card that had gone bad. I used GetDataBack to recover files, but they appeared to be malformed and didn't open in image viewers.

    I tasked Claude to analyze the files and figure out what's going on, and eventually we figured out that each file had a custom metadata header + thumbnail + actual image concatenated. I had it write a python script and was able to recover all the images with their metadata. It's nothing a human couldn't have figured out, but it was definitely WAY faster than doing it myself.

    I've also used Claude in the past to figure out how to break into routers with locked down firmware. It's great at suggesting and trying different approaches.

    • michaelbuckbee 2 hours ago
      I have a friend that just picked up a new consulting job resurrecting an ancient Windows desktop application. No source control, no tests. And it's spread out over a dozen different folders with names like "_old", "_new" and "dates". Claude's doing a tremendous job in getting him to grips with what is actually happening in the application, what's relevant, what's not, what's different. I think it's literally saving him days and days at work.
      • 0123456789ABCDE 1 hour ago
        if your friend has access to the binary and can pull it out to different box, they might get a lot out of a ghidra mcp -> https://github.com/LaurieWired/GhidraMCP
        • speff 40 minutes ago
          I'm not well versed at reverse engineering binaries or interpreting C/assembly so ghidra MCP has been an absolute gamechanger for helping me write tools. Once my project is complete, I plan to learn how to do the analysis myself manually and have cc guide me along the way.
      • baq 22 minutes ago
        no such thing as closed source software anymore, just fully open and not quite fully open nowadays.
      • ecommerceguy 1 hour ago
        I think it would be interesting, once the dust has settled, to do a compare with a less expensive model (time, capital, compute) such as deepseek 4.
        • shimman 1 hour ago
          Any reason to expect that this wouldn't work 100%? It's not like the different LLMs providers are that technically different from one another.
      • locknitpicker 1 hour ago
        > I have a friend that just picked up a new consulting job resurrecting an ancient Windows desktop application. No source control, no tests. And it's spread out over a dozen different folders with names like "_old", "_new" and "dates".

        That doesn't sound very impressive. Not being tracked with a version control system is fixed instantly with a git init, git add ., git commit .no AI required.

        Covering the app with tests is also something that requires no AI. At most, coding agents can generate characterization tests in broad sweeps, but we are talking about a delta between hand rolling and vibe-coding of a couple of days.

        Where LLM shines is helping developers build up an understanding of what is in place. Running /explain on a codebase can quickly provide you with a high level summary of what's in place.

        • michaelbuckbee 56 minutes ago
          The relevancy here is that he's denied the git history, versioning, branches, implicit documentation that even bad source control practices would have given him.
        • gcr 54 minutes ago
          That's what the comment is saying. In normal repositories, version control acts as a record of the momentum of the direction the product was taking. If it's just "_old" and "_new," the developer has to read and understand both, which I think is going to be far more time consuming than your estimation.
    • tucaz 2 hours ago
      I did EXACTLY that last night. Was doing by hand for about an hour and got to a point where I didn’t feel competent anymore and asked Claude to take from where I was.

      5 minutes later I had almost 3 hours of important footage recovered.

    • arm32 2 hours ago
      I'm sure data recovery companies are pretty pissed that slightly esoteric data recovery abilities are becoming more accessible for average software devs. They were charging an arm and a leg to remote in and run scripts.
      • morpheuskafka 1 hour ago
        They still have two important moats: (1) expensive hardware tools (even stuff like SATA write blockers are kind of expensive for what they are), spare hard drive collections to swap failed PCBs, etc and (2) the "nobody got fired for hiring us" edge similar to how everyone calls in Crowdstrike/Mandiant after an incident. If a suit-level manager finds out customer data was lost, they are going to want to call in an expert so they can immediately tell the customer they did, not have the same internal team try to figure it out.
    • brunoborges 1 hour ago
      > Claude Code is really good at stuff like this.

      A lot of "Claude Code is best at X" claims are probably user-selection bias.

      The people saying it are often exclusively Claude Code users, not people who are actively benchmarking Claude Code against Gemini CLI, OpenAI Codex, GitHub Copilot, and other agent harnesses on the same tasks.

      The claim may still be true for certain scenarios, but the evidence is usually anecdotal, not comparative.

      • gcr 50 minutes ago
        When I hear "claude code one-shotted X" and X is a novel problem, I mentally substituted "the agentic harness that I tried one-shotted X," since that's what they're saying.

        Getting any smart model to take a look at the task is the sort of lift that the speaker is usually pointing to.

      • throwaway041207 1 hour ago
        Parent didn't say Claude Code is best at anything?
  • jackconsidine 2 hours ago
    > Their luck changed for the better when they found an old mnemonic seed phrase written in an old college notebook

    TBF the real breakthrough was finding this, though no doubt they couldn't have recovered without Claude

    • paxys 1 minute ago
      I bet the majority of people reading this really think Claude cracked the encryption.
    • throwa356262 53 minutes ago
      Pretty much every AI win story feels like this.
    • bink 19 minutes ago
      The guy also had to plug in an old hard drive for Claude to search. Sounds like he had an idea the wallet was on there to begin with.
  • giancarlostoro 2 hours ago
    > Bitcoin trader recovers $400,000 using Claude AI after getting 'stoned' and losing wallet password 11 years ago — bot tried 3.5 trillion passwords before decrypting an old wallet backup

    Man. I wish I had a lost wallet worth a quarter of that even, technically didn't need Claude for this, just needed any password cracking software.

    • ApolloFortyNine 1 hour ago
      Explaining your life to an llm, then having it generate permutations of passwords to try does sound like it would work a decent percentage of the time.

      A large percentage of passwords aren't a random string of characters but a memorable word + memorable number. There's existing projects that basically do the same, and 3.5 trillion doesn't really make it clear if one of those wouldn't have worked as well, but I can see it having an above random chance to guess a password.

    • stavros 2 hours ago
      I'm really thankful I put my bitcoin in a time vault back in 2012 or so. It was inaccessible until about last year, and my $10 is now worth $100k.

      Thank you MtGox.

      • keeda 52 minutes ago
        Way back in the day when Bitcoin first came about, I once idly contemplated spending some time and money on it just because it was a very cool technology. At the time it was a bit of a hassle because you had to mine your own.

        Then I was especially tempted years later after running into the MtGox booth at CES, and seeing how convenient it had become. I remember asking a guy at the booth if Satoshi was really still anonymous or if any insiders knew about him, and he said "no" but was bit surprised I knew about Satoshi. I guess Bitcoin was still quite niche then even amongst a technical crowd.

        I considered buying a few bucks worth of bitcoin then for lulz, but I thought that money was better spent on beer lol.

        I've never really regretted spending that money on beer rather than bitcoin, because I knew that even if I did, it would 100% have been on MtGox and I would have lost it in the hack anyway, which would have been even more bitterly frustrating.

        A few of pints of beer >> years of regret.

      • bavell 1 hour ago
        > MtGox

        Whew, that brings me back!

        I still think about the Bitcoin my buddy paid me for his half of a pizza ~15 years ago... worth 6 figures now haha.

      • andai 2 hours ago
        Nice, congrats. What's a time vault?
        • Ccecil 2 hours ago
          It's sarcasm.

          Everyone who had coin in Mt.Gox lost it during a hack. A portion of that was returned to the users who had a loss about a year ago.

          • baggachipz 1 hour ago
            Yeah my 100 stolen bitcoins got me a cool $4k check from the settlement. Definitely made whole by that :|
        • spindump8930 2 hours ago
          Likely in this case the time vault was the collapse of Mt Gox, which has now recently been paying back holders.
        • stavros 2 hours ago
          It's something that locks your stuff so you can't access it for a while.
    • DonHopkins 1 hour ago
      If he was stoned, he would have probably spent his three bitcoins on pizza anyway.

      The first pizza anybody bought that way cost 10,000 bitcoin, over $billion.

  • hn937758 1 hour ago
    I was making a long edit in a crappy wiki UI and my browser froze. It would have taken a long time to redo, hours.

    I didn't want to take the chance of force closing and losing everything. I used claude code to extract my text out of the browser internals and filesystem objects.

    • kccqzy 1 hour ago
      I did this a long time ago before the age of AI. Core dump and then run strings on it. Very low tech but very useful!
    • mizzao 54 minutes ago
      How do you use Claude Code to access your browser memory?
      • hn937758 52 minutes ago
        I'd have to go back and look. It was 100% vibe coded.
  • nothrowaways 3 minutes ago
    Too many claude ads on this website
  • j3s 0 minutes ago
    blatant ad on the frontpage again
  • vibe42 2 hours ago
    Many crypto wallets use a key derivation function (KDF) to add an amount of computation (and memory usage) per password tried - to mitigate brute force of weak passwords.

    The increase in compute (decrease in brute-force cost) combined with price increases in many crypto tokens means brute-forcing old wallets can become worth it years after passwords were forgotten.

    And of course even smaller, local AI models can now easily write optimized scripts to brute-force any given KDF function.

    • ndr 1 hour ago
      how can that possibly work while supporting offline backup & restore?
      • _ache_ 17 minutes ago
        The compute power needed use to be of the order of 5s per password try. So it effectively mitigate brute force back them, you need a absurd compute power to crack them.

        Moore law did its thing, now you can do it with a lot less computer power.

  • oxqbldpxo 28 minutes ago
    This sounds like an Ad, why would you tell the world about this? Too coincidential.
    • htx80nerd 4 minutes ago
      claude ads hot off the presses.
  • tiffanyh 1 hour ago
    I'm no expert but using an old wallet with a changed password, and it working, seems like a major security design flaw.

    In the physical world, I can't imagine too many people being happy that old keys to your house still work even after you've changed the locks.

    Can someone more informed, help me understand how this worked and why it's ok.

    I'm genuinely wanting to become more informed & better understand.

    • kccqzy 1 hour ago
      A wallet is just private keys of some specific public keys on the blockchain that have unspent output (UTXO). None of what’s described in this article involves the blockchain, only the storage and protection of the private keys on a local computer.

      You can imagine that in your example, you didn’t change the locks on a house, but rather you put the house keys in a secure lock box and you changed the locks on this box.

      Changing the locks on a house in this case means transferring from an old wallet to a new wallet and then abandoning the old wallet. That’s exactly what the OP is trying to do. It’s just that you need the original key to do it.

    • bornfreddy 1 hour ago
      They didn't lose the key, they just didn't know which one is the correct one, where the lock is, and how the unlocking is done.
    • glitchc 43 minutes ago
      The wallet is akin to a lockbox holding your keys to the house. Breaking into the lockbox and changing it's lock does not affect the keys kept inside.
  • sillysaurusx 1 hour ago
    There’s an interesting ethical question here.

    The other day, I asked Claude to track down the leaked Claude Code source so I could study it. It refused, saying “given who made me, I’ll pass.” It gave me some pointers on how to find it myself, which worked.

    There isn’t that much of a difference between “help me crack this bitcoin wallet” and “help me crack this executable.”

    I don’t exactly have a solid point, just some general observations. First, I think we’ll see AI more and more simply refuse to do any kind of forensics, as forensics becomes more powerful. Second, that implies local models will become more valuable, since they’re the only ones willing to do that kind of work.

    I once got myself banned from Claude by researching barbiturates, since they’re connected with suicide. So my third observation is that we’ll see an uptick in people getting punished for trying to do things with AI that people don’t usually do. (Luckily the unban form worked.)

    Someone downthread asked “how’d he convince Claude the coins weren’t stolen?” Which is an interesting question, because presumably some people trying to crack a wallet have stolen it. So I guess the fourth observation is that the exact framing you approach an AI with will become more important. There was the classic “do this or I’ll cut off my arm,” which worked a year ago. But in the future it will be more like “hopefully the AI believes my story, or else I’ll get into trouble.”

    It’s good there are multiple AI vendors, or else it’d get real dystopian real fast when the de facto AI’s policy becomes something you have no way of working around.

  • rollyboo 1 hour ago
    Feels less like "ai cracked crypto" and more like having an insanely patient technical friend sitting next to you for 12 hours doing digital archaeology.
    • IshKebab 41 minutes ago
      Nowhere is it described as "AI cracked crypto".
    • anon291 20 minutes ago
      Except your friend doesn't need to be paid and has limitless energy.
  • My_Name 2 hours ago
    I spent a couple of days mining many years ago and got 2 bitcoins. At the time, they weren't worth the electricity they cost to mine and over time I lost the wallet and all information related to it.

    I'd love to mine a bitcoin a day on my PC now...

    • jmuguy 1 hour ago
      My wife doesn't like it when I tell the story of the hard drive I threw away with a wallet with 2 dozen BTC on it.

      But lets be honest - when BTC hit 100 bucks, we would have cashed it out thinking we were geniuses.

      • throwaway041207 1 hour ago
        Yep, I timed the top of the market perfectly and cashed out 5 BTC at ~$80/BTC.
        • fileeditview 55 minutes ago
          You are better than me. Back when you could mine BTC with the CPU, i had about 2 coins. I found it useless and silly and deleted my wallet at some point :)
    • fsckboy 46 minutes ago
      >they weren't worth the electricity they cost to mine...I'd love to mine a bitcoin a day on my PC now...

      you can!... but they wouldn't be worth the electricity now either. the cost of mining (amortization of hardware costs plus electricty) is the value of bitcoin. if bitcoins are a bargain to mine, more people will mine them thereby reducing rewards.

      should you have mined more back then if you had magical perfect knowledge of the future? no: they weren't worth the electricity.

      instead you should have bought more of them back then.

    • foobarian 1 hour ago
      Think on the bright side, at least you didn't spend 10000 BTC to buy pizza... speaking of which, Bitcoin Pizza Day coming up in just over a week!

      https://www.coinbase.com/learn/crypto-glossary/what-is-bitco...

  • hansmayer 14 minutes ago
    On a purely technical level - cool. But I still cannot get over the impression that even in this case LLMs show us how they are mainly useful to grifters. I mean, 5 Bitcoins worth 400K USD. Why? What intrinsic value does Bitcoin deliver? It's like trading for monopoly money.
  • TruffleLabs 1 hour ago
    "the user dumped their entire college computer files in Claude in a last-gasp effort."

    Claude has limits that would make this simple statement be much more complicated-

    Via Claude "So the chat upload file size limit is actually 500MB per file (not 30MB as many third-party sources claim - those appear to be outdated). The 20-file-per-chat cap and the 30MB-per-file limit in Projects remain consistent across plans. The real constraint at any subscription level remains the context window - how many tokens Claude can hold in memory at once during a conversation. "

    • plqbfbv 1 hour ago
      > Claude has limits that would make this simple statement be much more complicated-

      I guess the user simply pointed Claude Code at a local folder containing all the backups and files, and Code went through them via find/ls/etc

  • VadimPR 1 hour ago
    Claude is also surprisingly good at analyzing system issues on a Linux system and solving them!
    • moduspol 15 minutes ago
      Yesterday I had ChatGPT walk me through fixing my single-node k3s cluster. It required rebuilding the sqlite database (while skipping a few corrupted records), then clearing the containerd cache, and then finally deleting a somehow-corrupted Secret record, and then recreating it.

      Without it I would have given up way earlier, but the infinite patience to keep slurping in error messages and continue to troubleshoot really worked out.

    • internet101010 26 minutes ago
      Yeah Claude is really, really good there. You tell it the distro and the problem and it will solve it. Saved me a lot of pain when it came to swapping out an encrypted boot drive and was good about emphasizing the order of operations required for what I would consider a higher risk/complexity situation.
    • PeterStuer 48 minutes ago
      Not just Linux. Whiz at system management on Windows as well.
  • ecommerceguy 1 hour ago
    Does Claude turn out to be what 'Quantum' was promised; crack bitcoin? This could be fun.
  • fontain 47 minutes ago
    The story is confusing some people.

    Claude found a file on the computer that the wallet owner had not found. Claude didn't crack a password or do anything magic, it just searched for a file that the wallet owner had not thought to search for before.

    So, where the wallet owner had previously only tried to access /Users/example/wallet.dat, Claude thought, "why don't I check if there is another wallet.dat file elsewhere on the system?" which it did.

    The outcome is the same, it is great that Claude tried something that the wallet owner hadn't tried, but this is more an example of how dumb humans can be rather than how smart Claude is.

    The trillions of passwords are a red herring and unrelated to the solve.

  • afrltp 1 hour ago
    Claude found an old wallet and then ran btcrecover on that. The question is why the user could not find an old wallet with any numbers of Unix tools himself.

    Since we are dealing with Anthropic, the entire story could be staged of course.

  • morpheos137 48 minutes ago
    i am not understanding why could'nt a deterministic dictionary program do it?
  • triyambakam 1 hour ago
    How did they convince Claude they hadn't stolen it?
    • SV_BubbleTime 1 hour ago
      Maybe they said they were gay?
      • sillysaurusx 1 hour ago
        (Relevant; there was a “gay jailbreak” thread a week or so ago. I laughed.)
  • doublerabbit 1 hour ago
    Claude hallucinate me a bitcoin address with unlimited money in it please.
  • josefritzishere 1 hour ago
    OK, that's impressive
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  • ChrisArchitect 2 hours ago
    • ion098 1 hour ago
      Is this not the link to this discussion?
      • ZoneZealot 1 hour ago
        Guessing the HN admins merged the post into this, which carries the comments.
  • hasteg 2 hours ago
    Claude ran a ctrl+f on his file system. Groundbreaking. Insane the dude hadn't figured this out for himself considering a few years salary was just sitting there.
    • altcognito 2 hours ago
      > The bot uncovered an old backup wallet file that it successfully decrypted, while also uncovering a bug in the password configuration that was preventing recovery up to that point.

      I know that we're all experts in archaic backup mechanisms and the encryption systems they used, but I think this qualifies as doing more than Ctrl+F

      Also, it is right there in the article.

    • FlamingMoe 2 hours ago
      Would be worth a lot more if he had done this sooner and put it in the market 5 or 6 years ago.
      • nl3s 1 hour ago
        BTC was valued at about $50k 5 years ago and about $10k 6 years ago. Now it is at about $80k.

        So I guess he might be glad he didn’t figure it out earlier.

  • Alifatisk 1 hour ago
    I've tried Claude Code with another LLM, it's very good at doing tasks and figuring things out. So this made me wonder, even though we know how good Claude models is, maybe the true value is in the harness now?